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Sir Tom Finney: “Tom Finney would have been great in any team, in any match and in any age – even if he had been wearing an overcoat,” was Bill Shankly’s verdict on Tom Finney. He made his professional debut with Preston North End in August 1946, winning the first of his 76 England caps a month later. He played for Preston North End throughout his career and after his retirement as a player he retained his links with the club. He was its chairman for many years, was knighted in 1998 and died in 2014.
Cliff Morgan OBE CVO: “Morgan the Magnificent” was the title given to Cliff Morgan by South African newspapers when he toured the country with the British Lions team in 1955. His success in that tour earned him the captaincy of Wales the following season. Cliff was born into a mining family in the Rhondda in 1930 and joined Cardiff Rugby Club straight from school, playing at fly-half. The first of his 29 caps for Wales was won in 1951. When his playing career ended in 1958 he became a successful broadcaster and manager with the BBC. He died in 2013.